Huang: The world is our world and it should not be controlled by politicians. But when did the first president or emperor come to being? Why did they want to control the place and people which they so-called as a country? To serve people? Or just wanna get the power in the name of love for the place? I think this is about the human nature and complicated to make any conclusions. Our first ancient emperor Yan Di was considerate and really treated every fellow as his family with whom he worked, cooperated. And the whole country lived in peace and calm with no arguments or battles. Yes, the world is usually changed by a minority, not the majority. But the majority would always follow the minority. Should we say this is the result of effective communication or mind-washing? The pursuit for money, power or something else would lead the politicians to do badly which might mislead people as well. The data you listed shocked me. From my limited experience, most Chinese wanna try a new life abroad just for money, for substances you know. I haven't met anyone that go outside just for their cultures or sth. beyond the substances. Even those parents that send their children to study abroad are hoping them to get better jobs, still for substances. I would rather say we Chinese are still poor, you know, hungry for living, even though we have got enough money and big houses or good cars. So how many westerners that immigrate to China are looking for money? Are they really interested in our 5000 years' history? I have no idea about this. I can see or feel westerners are open while Chinese are close through movies, TV series, songs' expressions and my friends home and abroad. As an English major, I became more open-minded and tolerant for different things. I guess I would still be close if I did not contact English. FYI. Song: You said there are 5000 years of history with the Chinese, but some said, it is just 4000 or 3000 years that could be able to trace from. And who does not have thousands years of history? USA is not born from stone, they are from UK, UK is not for stone, they are from Italy and Greece, they are also 5000 years civilization. You said, Chinese just went out to look for money, that is not true, maybe 200 or 300 years ago, that is true, but at present, most of the immigrants from China are rich people, they bring out a lot of money, they never or can not make money in the western world. They just want to get a better living condition in the developed world, or just want to get a better education for their children. You said, Foreigners will not come to China because they do not like money or they do not know why they are going to move to China. I can give you a good reason, because China is so cheap, you can work well and earn more and get more respects and get priorities in China as a foreigner, You can earn a lot but spend a little to live a very good life in China. Remember? I gave you three reasons? one, they do not know this culture this country these people, they do not feel good about these China or Chinese thing, and they do not feel drawn to here, and also this country are felt more close or strict? Actually, I traveled a lot, I can say, China might be the most free country in the world, if any foreigner can live in this country for more than half a year, he or she would definitely get a conclusion, do not forget to ask them to tell me about that. Huang: For the question if it is the oriential ways that cause China's closeness, I think it is a cultural question. We Chinese are more conservative which has been the result of all kinds of educations we got from our childhood. Some said there might be over 5000 years of history for China. I read a book written by an UK hitorian around 100 years ago, titled" the future belongs to China" in which he described the industrious nation would become No. 1 after he traveled and studied from west to east. Such as Russia, Japan, India, UK. So are there any rich westerners move into China? It seems none from your description. Song: I said China is cheap, you do not need to be rich to move into China, if you are not rich, you can earn a lot of money in China as a foreigner and live a good life in China, the living of cost in China is really low. It doesn't matter China with a long history, the western also with a long history, I guess you just want to say China is unified for a very long time, but the western world is splitted, yes, that is right, but does it matter? unified is better than smaller countries? or long period of concentrated control is better than autonomy independent short time of fractured states? Huang: I can't agree with you more on the priority those foreigners have in China. But I have doubts. 1. Is China cheap? If it was cheap, then why do more and more Chinese wanna go abroad? One of my close relatives moved into America 4 years ago and she returned back to buy two apartments last year. She told us the life cost is low there, compared to that when she had lived in China for 50 years. 2. Does that mean Chinese are more cline to explore the outside world while westerners are not? It seems that common people have more interest in making money, no matter what country it is? Westerners pick up other countries but not China for traveling, living or whatever, except of those choosing China to earn money---what does this mean? Song: I give you data, If you check the GDP of China, if you count on the ppp(purchase power parity), China GDP is bigger than USA, if you use the norminal GDP, China total GDP is lower than USA. This certified my reasoning, China is much cheaper than in USA. Facts speak, Why does she want to buy houses in China? isn't that cheaper in China? When I arrive UK, I feel I am ripped off, I need to pay 4 times of the same money for the things to live in the UK. But if I live in my own capital city of Hunan province, I can live a very good life with a small amount of money. If the USA is cheap, please give me some data? No, the westerners explored the earth and colonised the whole world, we Chinese not. I can not say they are not curious to China, they just do not have many information, the Chinese language and characters are just too hard for them, they are not willing to suffer, but we Chinese are willing to learn. We are eager to know more about the outside world, the freedom thing, the democratic thing.(maybe not?) Huang: My relative bought two apartments for her returning back someday and her daughter. I have no data to back up her descriptions, but get my conclusion from her own opinions. Is China too closed to make it known around the world? Why is this? It is said from my friends who have businesses overseas that Chinese are industrious while westerners are lazy, relatively speaking. The Chinese fellows , bosses included focus on works, ignoring the holidays while the counterparts from other countries do not. They work slowly and pay more attention to their leisure life.
