Song:There is a large number of Chinese, They are just eager to want to go out of China, for example, there is an article today, out of the Greece immigration, 90% of the golden residence visa were "bought" by Chinese(through buying a house), and also there are article about the human trafficking from Mexico to the USA, there are 11 Chinese been arrested and might be sent back to China. If someone is a westerner, it is not that hard to get a visa and go to China and live in China even work in China, but if a Chinese worker or farmer or normal people want to apply a visa of the developed countries, it is not that easy. is this shown that these countries are too close? narrow? selfish? arrogant? snobbish? exclusive? ignorant? I do not know. or the China this country is just too bad? I know it is a very hard and complicated thing, but I think maybe we can talk a little bit more about this thing, or we can say it like this, another majority part of Chinese people, they feel really well about China, but they don't have enough chance to really feel the developed world, even the Chinese travel sometimes, they will congregate as a group, they just see some sightseeing sites, they can not live or feel or experience or explore the real world and real culture of the other part of the world, You know what I mean, if you have met the backpackers before, they are westerners, they are young, they are eager and passionate, they do not have money, they do not live in a hotel or fancy house, they live like a normal local Chinese or below the living standard of the locals, it is the real life, isn't it? If you just enjoy the fancy food and the yacht and the wine and the advanced facilities in the high-end world, maybe you can enjoy the same or better one in Beijing Shanghai or Guangdong. Huang: Well, I guess the curiosity to see different worlds, different cultures, new people even try some new life styles is running in all kinds of people around the world. That is why we travel abroad, make new friends even do business overseas. It will broaden a person's minds and make progress at the same time. As a hard-working nation, we Chinese had a long history to go abroad, made big or small fortunes and also got some good or bad reputation during the progress. I have some friends that are living in America, Singapore and some that just returned to China several years ago from Japan, England ,Singapore etc. All of them have gotten the residential identity. They told me they went out just for a better life before, and then they love the clean atmospher and the education or social systems for next generations day by day, you know, this is the developed countries attractions. Then some of them just refuse to return to China. So his or her friends, relatives would also like to try to search for a different life outside. It is well understood because human beings are looking for benifits while avoiding bad. Song: Here raising a new question, But also some of our fellow people go to the under developed countries, how so? Isn't that be harder? Someone said, China is in a golden age at present, if you can not earn good money in China, how can you earn more in an under developed world? And, if the developed world is very close and stingy to give visa to poorer countries, but the visa thing is a bilateral thing, why I can see a lot of foreigners in other countries even in a poorer country, such as the city Yangon in Myanmar, but we can just see a tiny percentage of foreingers in the street of China. Yes, they/the wealthy countries are close, is that indicate that we are the same close or closer? Huang:Correct. A lot of Chinese people do emmigrate to developing countries which may be much poorer than China. One person I know told me before, I quote:" It is hard for us to try the developed countries,so we make a second choice. We have more competitors in China, you know,too many people compete for a same job and the life cost is rising all the time , so we would like to try our luck in under-developed countries. That may means more chances in these places.But we also doubt the 100% possibility to live a better life, we just wanna give it a shot. It is better late than never." This person's explanation maybe indicate those poeple's choices. I also read some news which said a Chinese man killed his wife and two children in America.They had moved there for around ten years with two children were born Americans.It happens from time to time. So why is this happening? They had tried so hard, then why quited so sadly and easily? Because of the high pressure, such as the indiffernce with local people, high life costs, or no hopes in living abroad? It is said that more and more foreigners move into China for we are getting more and more open. It is also seen that foreingers even have some more edges to study, to business, to live a better life support from our governments than our local Chinese. Even we ourselves like to give them some advantages which might be a way to show our hospitality. From my point of view, what the governments do harbors different meanings from what people do, you know, political profits. So do we have to be more open than other countries and how open to foreigns? To open or not to open? These are really political questions. But we do know that our Qing Dynasty was devastated in refusing to study and to open to the new world and Japan became a super country for opening to all excellent cultures. Is it a people's choice or some invisible fate? God knows. Song: The world is our world, it should not be controlled or monopolized only by the politician. But sadly, yes, China is not open compared to west world, China is not attractive to the developed world, China is a little unknown to the outside world. These are three main reasons why less immigrant came here to China. I said China might not be very open, and I researched it and get some data, the data backed my opinion. The immigration population ranking, USA 20 Germany Russia 5 Saudi Arabia 5 UK 3.5 UAE 3.3 Australia France3.1 Spain Italy3 India Ukraine2.3 Pakistan Thailand1.7 Kazakhstan South Africa 1.4 Jordan Turkey Kuwait Hong Kong 1.3 Iran Malaysia Ivory Coast Japan Switzerland Singapore 1.1 Israel Lebanon 0.9 These are numbers of immigration, China rank is very low. but if you compare these to the whole population of these countries, you will get the Ratio of Immi population, I list some of it here, Monaco 64 Bahrain 55 Luxembourg Singapore 43 Jordan Hongkong 40 Australia Lebanon 33 Saudi Arabia Oman 31 Switzerland 29 Israel 27 New Zealand 25 Gabon 24 Canada 22 Kazakhstan 21 Sweden 19 Cyprus Croatia 18 Austria17 Estonia Ireland 16 Germany 15 USA 14 . China rank might be the last one in the world. We say China is a super power, we often talk about GPD, but we know the whole GDP of the nation might be number two in the world, but the GDP per capita is about No. 80th. it is not too bad, it is in the middle, but when we check the immigration, it is at the end of the ranking. Through the data, we will know, when I say the developed world is close, it is not fair, compared to China, they are not close, they permitted 10% or above their population to be immigrant, but in China, even the absolute number is very low. Do you agree with me? Do you have any idea? Please let me know. yes, because I gave three reasons, I can not say , the only reason is the closeness of China, maybe we are unknown to them and we are not attractive to them. that might be the orientation?